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To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine,

SIR,

EING about to publish an addi

nicator. I have only to add, that all
original documents shall be duly taken
care of, according to the desire of the

Bond our tube Antiquities person who may favour me with them,

of Athens," from documents left by
Messrs. Stuart and Revett, I am de-
sirous of prefixing some account of the
life of those gentlemen, who, by their
great industry and perseverance, ac-
complished a work highly creditable to
themselves as artists, and honourable to
the nation to which they belonged. I
therefore take this public means, through
the channel of your widely circulating
Miscelany, to solicit authentic parti-
culars and anecdotes relative to either
of them. Of Stuart, I wish to know any
particulars of his early life, as the time
and place of his birth, with the circum-
stances of his parents and family; how
he came to be artist, to travel abroad,
to be a scholar, &c. Also the names of
the gentlemen who were his friends and
patrons, and by what means they en-
couraged the publication of the Anti-
quitics of Athens; a list of the buildings
to which he acted as architect, will be
very acceptable; if any gendeman has
any letters written by Stuart, while at
Athens, containing curious information,
the loan of them will be very acceptable.
I am aware of two papers in the Gen-
tleman's Magazine, 1788, respecting
Stuart; the latter one has the greatest
claim to attention; and I shall be very
glad to know the author, if living; this
paper is signed, A. H.

I am in possession of authentic do-
'cuments, respecting the carly life of
Revett: but am desirous to know who he
studied under as a painter, previous to
his going to Rome, which was in the
year 1742; also the names of those
gentlemen, who were his friends and
patrons, after his return from Athens;
and a list of the buildings erected under
his care, as an architect. Revett was a
frequent contributor to the Gentleman's
Magazine; a complete reference to the
papers written by him, will be very ac-
ceptable. In short, Sir, as time has
triumphed over so many of the contem
poraries of these celebrated travellers
and artists, my desire is to be enabled to
give to the public such a permanent
sketch of their lives and scientific la-
bours, as may do justice to their merits,
and be an excitement to others to follow
such noble examples. It is hoped that
none but well authenticated informa-
tion will be sent, and accompanied by
the name and residence of the commu-

and all authentic information will be
Your's, &c.
thankfully received, by
Architectural Library,
High Holborn, London.

J. TAYLOR.

To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine.

SIR,

cember, 1807, I troubled you with Song ago as in September and Detwo of an intended series of papers, on the subject of the Treatment of Impediments of Speech; and on the Impropriety of mingling Cases of that Description, with those of Deafness, and other calamitous Defects; which require, in many particu treatment so opposite and inilars, a mical, that the most absolute separation of them appears to be of the highest importance to that class of pupils who have Impediments only.

By some accident or other, the latter of those communications did not find its way into your valuable Miscellany, till the mouth of April, 1803; and, in the mean time, the notes I had hastily made, for the further prosecution of my design, had not only been thrown aside, but professional engagements had so thronged upon me, that I had no opportunity of In the hurry of pracresuming my pen. tical exertion, the chain of ideas became broken; and although I have frequently felt the wish of reuniting the severed links, the leisure and disposition for such an effort have never happened to meet together, till the present moment; when looking over some papers, that had been thrown at different times into a drawer, I chanced to meet with the fragment, with which, however abrupt it may appear, I shall here resume the subject.

It is for this reason, Sir, that I condemn the indiscriminate mixture of cases of inpediment, and of deafness or imbecility. It is for this reason, although I am perfectly convinced, that I could teach the deaf to speak, with much less labour than is sometimes necessary to vicious habits of vocal utterance, the absolutely deaf are never admitted into my seminary.

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For the same reason, although I have devoted a considerable portion of my attention to cases of amentia, that is to say, to those cases, in which, from the neg lects or accidents of early education, the senses have not properly been developed, or the connective faculty of the mind has

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not been called into action. I have thought it necessary, to preclude every case that appeared to have any approxi mation to the idiotic, the paralytic, or the insane. To "those unhappy persons," however, whom the correspondent alluded to in my former communications, and many others, I believe, are disposed to regard, as "incurably dumb, (that is, who want, or are defective in the organs, that produce articulative sound,") I have no objection. I reject altogether, as far as the organization of the mouth is concerned, all distinction of curable and incurable impediments: for I know how far human ingenuity can go, in supplying the deficiences of organic structure; and I know also, by experience, how far one organ can be trained, to supply the deficiences, and perform the functions of another. Even without the application of artificial palates, those who are deficient in that organ, may obtain a distinct, and intelligible, though not a tunable, or agreeable utterance. In short, let there be but industry, intellect, sight, and hearing in the pupil, and the professor, who really understands bis science, need never dispair of superadding the power of fluent speech. Neither, in those cases, whercin apparent ineptitude, or early eccentricity, give reason to apprehend a tendency to idiotisin, or derangement, should the object be hastily abandoned. Observation and experiment have sufficiently convinced me, that (notwithstanding the opinions of many physical enquirers), such early indications, as well as the calamity of speechlessness, are frequently as referable to educational, and moral, as to physical and irresistible causes: in other words, that there is an idiotcy, a derangement, and a speechlessness, of habit, non-developement and mistake; and which are, therefore, capable of palliation, at least, if not of absolute remedy: as well as of organic malconformation, and constitutional infirmity. Perhaps it would not be saying too much, if I were to affirm, that imbecility, at least, if not absolute idiotcy, as well as some species of derangement, are as frequently the result of moral causes, early acting upon the infant organs, as of organic or constitutional causes acting upon the mind.

With the indications of this distinction, I have some reason to believe, that I am not entirely unacquainted; and it has been a part of my study, during several recent years, to devise and apply such modes of regulation, of stimulus, and restriction, as may be likely, in cases of the former description, to remedy, or rather

to avert, the calaniity: not indeed in my, Institution, for that would be inconsistent with my other arrangements. Cases of Amentia, where the appearances of imbecility are marked, and conspicuous, are most conveniently superintended in the private residence of the family: especially where there is, in such family, any judicious individual who can be depended on, to enforce the regulations of the professor; report to him the results of every experiment, and act implicitly by his direction: and, under such circum-, stances, I have seen enough of the progress of developement, in faculties apparently the most inert, or most unpromi sing, to be confident, that many a human being has been consigned to speechless inanity, that might have been trained, at least, to a respectable mediocrity of mind and faculty; and that, in many instances, what in early childhood was only habitual ineptitude, or cherished eccentricity, has been suffered to mature itself into drivelling idiotism, and mental disorganization.

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Upon this subject, it is

Upon this subject, it is my intention, ever I can find time, to give my senti ments to the world, at much greater extent, and in a more scientific form. In the mean time, I shall probably trouble you, (perhaps for your next Number,) with a few hints upon another subject, of more popular interest. Till when, I re`main, Your's, &c. J. THELWALL.

Bedford Place, July, 18th.

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Cistency of the late Dr. Anderson's enlightened pursuits, it is very desirable that none of his ideas should he lost. At the conclusion of his last published performance, he announced his intention of employing his leisure, while health permitted, in collecting facts on the subject of legislation; and so arranging them, that, in case of death, some use might be made of them by others.

His object was to discover, that system of legislation, or civil polity, that should be best calculated to promote domestic felicity, among the great body of the people; to guard against internal discontents, civil disturbauces, and revolutions, and to avoid wars with-foreign states, and the obtrusive interference with external politics-not by meant of revolutions, and destructive convul sions, but by the gentle influence of re gulations, that have a silent tenden v te

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operate upon the heart and affections, and thus to influence the actions, and habitudes of men.

From the active, and energetic mind of Dr. Anderson, a disquisition on this subject must have been interesting in an extraordinary degree.

Feeling as he did, the desolation of war, and trembling at the frightful consequences of anarchy and confusion, I should be glad to know whether that, or any other papers left by Dr. A. are intended to be published.

The extensive literary intercourse, established by means of the Monthly Magazine, induces me further to enquire, whether the Dictionary of an Universal Character, (noticed in a former volume) is in a state of forwardness. Coventry, July 10, 1809.

Your's, &c.
WILLIAM FLAVEL.

To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine.

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SIR,

T is customary to place the altar at the east end of the church; and, in many places, for the whole congregation, when they repeat the Creed, to turn their face to the east; no doubt because the great lamp of nature, that lights all to the business of the day, and the light that has enlightened the nations, has gradually proceeded from the east. But why do clergymen, when they officiate at the altar, stand on the north side, with their face to the south, during part of the Communion service? Is it because, in the temple of Jerusalem, the priests under the law, did the same? Or, is it because the sun, the light of the eye, and great emblem of the light of life, is south of us that live in Europe? And, if so, do the clergy, in the southern hemisphere, for the same reason, turn their face to the north, when officiating at the altar?

It was customary for the ancients, to paint some parts, and some times all, of their horses red, and other parts of them green, purple, &c. And this custom is referred to by St. John, in the book of Revelations. But, as the books of Jewish, Grecian, and Roman Antiquities, to which I have at present conveniently access, do not satisfy me on the subject, I should be much obliged to any of your readers to tell me, with the above queries solved, in allusion to what custom, or peculiar circumstance, in the same book, Death is said to ride on his pale horse? Does it refer to any known warrior, or other person, who, using to ride

on a pale horse, brought death along with him, wherever he went. Your's, &c.

137, St. Martin's-lane, JAMES HALL. June 27, 1809.

To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine.

SIR,

Page 188, of the Edinburgh Review, for April, 1809, is the following very flagrant observation-Knowing well that translation is less necessary in this kingdom, than beyond the Border Country, I cannot help wishing more of notoriety, than that work has obtained.-Hear him, the Reviewer!

The state of classical learning, at present, in this country, is such as by no means to please us; and much good might, we think, be derived from the plan of our Greek and Roman studies. In this northern part of the island, our system of education is imagined, by our neighbours, as defective in regard to classical instruction; aud in regard to the Greek language, though not the Latin, the charge is extremely just. By our institutions, provision is not made for teaching even the elements of the Greek, to any but a very small proportion, of the best disposed of the youths. In the other part of the island, however, and that the principal part, classical learning occupies an immense proportion of the field of education. In fact, it almost covers it, leaving a very scanty corner, and that cultivated by a very antiquated sort of husbandry, for any other crop. Yet it is remarkable, that England has communicated very little useful service toward the promotion of classical learning. None of the lettered nations of Europe, the French, the Germans, the Italians, are so badly supplied with translations, in their own language, of the prose classics. None of them have done even so little, towards the purifying of the text of the ancient authors; to none of them is the lover of ancient learning so little indebted for those helps, which render his acquisitions easy, and his readings delightful."

Query-Has this erudite reviewer been deprived of his birth in the High School at Edinburgh; or does he take it for granted, because he cannot read the exotic literature of a sister kingdom, that that literature, that that erudition, by his septentrional feat is to be repressed.

What would Harvey, Clarke, Bentley, the author of Religio Medici, Sir Thomas

Brown,

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SHOULD be much obliged to any of your numerous readers, to inform me, if the discovery of Bean-hemp is likely to become an object of attention. I see by a late newspaper, that Mr. Hall, the discoverer, has received a medal for it, from the Society of Arts, &c. those encouragers of genius and

transactions that shun the light of day, and where they can unbosom themselves in perfect confidence to each other, is it not natural to suppose, that these places must have been frequently chosen for such purposes; and that, in time, the expression, "under the rose," might be figuratively applied to every thing, in which secrecy and fidelity were required.

This account may probably not be deemed satisfactory, by many of your readers; to such I can only say, in the words of the Roman poet:

Si quid novisti rectius istis, Candidus imperti; si non, his utere mecum. ΝΕΜΟ. London, June 19, 1809.

To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine.

SIR,

E are much obliged to you for

merit. In his account of Bean-hemp, in- Walls set of Preserbial Expres

serted in your Magazine, some months ago, Mr. H. suggests, that the poor, in the various workhouses in England, as well as others, might not only be employed in separating Bean-hemp from the straw, but also in the manufacturing it into a variety of articles.

To have cheap materials, the produce of the country, put into the hands of the poor, in our own workhouses, for the purpose of being manufactured, is an object devoutly to be wished. The want of these, and of apartments for the grown, separate from those of the very young females in our workhouses, is one of the great causes why so few of them do well, either as servants, or in a state of wedlock. I observed, what was said by Mr. Hall in your Number for July, last year, page 469, on the pruning of the vine; and must confess, that I find a good deal of truth in it. Your inserting the above, in your Magazine, will oblige a variety of your readers, as well as, Esser, June 24, 1809.

Your's, &c.

J. S.

sions, from the Greeks. Erasmus, who has mentioned some of them, tells us, that when the Greeks meaned to say, that a man was uselessly, foolishly, or improperly employed, they used to say, He is teaching a dog to bark.

a bull to roar. a cock to crow.

a wasp to sting.

a hen to chuck. a fish to bite.

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sounding the trumpet before the victory.

putting meat in a chamber-pot.
taking a post to kill a bee.
setting an ox to catch a hare.
doing what is done.

promising golden mountains.
taking a hammer to spread a plaster.
taking a hair to draw a waggon.

seeking figs where only brambles grow.
Your's, &c.

A NEW CORRESPONDENT.

Hackney, June 9, 1809.

To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine. To the Editor of the Monthly Magazine.

IN

SIR,

your last Number, your correspondent, Mr. J. Hall, expresses a wish to be informed, what is the origin of the phrase, under the rose. The wild rose-tree (Rosa sylvestris) it is well known, abounds in solitary places, and at a distance from the haunts of man. Now, as such retired spots are well suited, not only as places of rendezvous. for lovers, but for others engaged in

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SIR,

N the Memoirs of Eminent Persons, in your last Magazine, I read a little Biographical Account of the late Bishop of London; but by no means so complete, as might be expected from one who knew him, and wrote as a biographer ought to write.

It is natural to wish the reputation of our friends to live: it is natural to say all that is kind and affectionate of them, after their departure: but there is no need, when we commend one, to disparage another.

The imperfection of that little account I should not have noticed, had I not seen a narrowness of spirit in it; which, while it tries to elevate the late bishop, endeavours to degrade another person, because he was a dissenter, and an opponent of Dr. Porteus.

I am always disgusted with illiberality, and must therefore take the liberty of making a few remarks.

The late Rev. Robert Robinson, of memory at least as much distinguished as Dr. Porteus can possibly be; seems to be mentioned in a very slighting, con"Mr. Robert temptuous way, viz. Robinson, who had been bred a barber, and who, from being a hearer of Whitfield, became a preacher among the Calvinists, until converted by the Bap tists, among whom he became a teacher of some eminence, &c."

The writer, in the true spirit of highchurch, appears to think that the addition reverend is prostituted, when given to one who refused to have episcopal his head: "Mr. Robert hands laid upon Robinson, once a barber, at last became (according to the cant of that party) only a teacher, a baptist-teacher of some eminence." Is not the dissenting-teacher, as much a clergyman as one of the establishment.

Surely his having been apprenticed to a barber, is no proof, nor rational presumption, of deficiency in either natural,

or acquired abilities: if it were, I could
furnish abundant instances of a similar
kind, in the establishment. I could tell
this gentleman of one bishop, who was
apprentice to a pastry-cook; another to
a wool-comber; of the rector of a city-
parish, who, in early life, was a gold-wire
drawer; of a lecturer of St. Andrew's,
who had been a stay-maker; of another
lecturer at a church, in the east of Lon-
dou, who had been a baker; of a rector
of a large parish just out of the city, who
had been an upholsterer, and after that
a lawyer; of another who had been a
linen-draper; of another, now living, who
was an ironmonger. All these last had
been, not only apprenticed, but actually
in business: and shocking, dreadfully
shocking as it may be to ecclesiastical
aristocracy, some of them had been event
journeymen. Many more instances of a
similar kind might be easily found; but
these are sufficient to shew, that dis-
senters are not, and even poor Robert
Robinson was not, in this respect, below
par.

Let such foolish haughty ideas be always scouted! And let men be estimated, not according to their former employments, or the contempt which little minds attach to those employments, but according to what they were in themselves.

Thus, strip Dr. Porteus of the lawn, and other appendages of an establishment, and what was he more than Robert Robinson? He was an amiable so was Robert Robinson. A man man: of natural and acquired abilities: so. was Robert Robinson. A Christian minister: so was Robert Robinson. A man (perhaps) of distinguished genius: so was Robert Robinson, to a certainty.

When I say they were both men of natural and acquired abilities, I view it as of no consideration, how those acquirements were obtained; whether in the regular routine of classical and university education, as in the one instance; or by the unassisted force of personal genius, bursting its way from obscurity; and, with peculiar strength of mind, seizing on knowledge in every department, till it had laid in an ample stock, Both were, no as in the other case. doubt, amply furnished; and both “rose in the estimation of their friends, and the public, far above what might have been expected from their birth;" for Dr. Porteus also, was not remarkably distinThe writer guished in this respect. chooses not to say (if he knew) who his

father

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